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‎The Holy God

Dubbayou2: /* The incarnate God */

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‎The incarnate God

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‎The incarnate God

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‎The Holy God

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‎The Holy God

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‎The Holy God

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‎The Holy God

Dubbayou2: /* Six testimonies */

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‎Six testimonies

Dubbayou2: /* Three in heaven */

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‎Three in heaven

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 The picture painted by Genesis is that in the beginning there was only God. He was all that there was. There was no place to put a universe, so he opened a void in himself. He then made stuff from the immaterial void. The universe is still void. He formed stuff from the holes within himself. We are immersed in him.
-:[[Ac 17:28]] '''For in him we live, and move, and have our being'''; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.</ref>
+:[[Ac 17:28]] '''For in him we live, and move, and have our being'''; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
 We are immersed in God like fish in water and birds in air. We cannot and never will be able to see him. He is Holy, separate, and different. He must make himself known in some way. There are three testimonies in heaven.
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-Next: [[TMYK - Three in heaven]]
+Next: [[TMYK - Three in heaven - The Spirit]]
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 =The incarnate God=
-In order to be understood, God had to take a form from the same material as the universe. That form is the exact representation of the essence of God. <ref>[[Heb 1:3]] Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person [hypostasis, essential nature], and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;</ref> He took on the form of the earth 'erets' ארץ. The word 'earth' not only means 'land, earth, ground, etc.' but also means 'the inhabitants of the earth'.
+In order to be understood, God had to take a form from the same material as the universe. That form is the exact representation of the essence of God. <ref>[[Heb 1:3]] Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person [hypostasis, essential nature], and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;</ref> He took on the form of the earth 'erets' ארץ. The word 'earth' not only means 'land, earth, ground, etc.' but also means 'the inhabitants of the earth'. <ref>[[Php 2:7]] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:</ref>
 And in that form gave three testimonies on earth.

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+Next: [[TMYK - Three in heaven]]
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 John has declared that no man has seen God <ref>[[Joh 1:18]] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].</ref> Not only has he not seen him, but he cannot see him.  This teaching comes from the hidden. God is to men, like water is to the fish, and air is to the bird. The fish cannot see the water; if they could, they could see nothing else. The birds cannot see the air; if they could, they could see nothing else. We are immersed in God!
-Some mock the idea that God is so big that he fills the universe. God doesn't fill the universe. God is bigger than the universe! <ref>[[1Ki 8:27]] But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?</ref> When God separated heavenly stuff from earthly stuff, the stuff the universe is made of, the earthly stuff was a void within God. <ref>[[Ge 1:2]] And the earth was '''without form, and void'''; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.</ref> Christians have the idea that God took absolutely nothing, and changed it's nature to be something, then organized the something into stuff.
+Some mock the idea that God is so big that he fills the universe. God doesn't fill the universe. God is bigger than the universe! <ref>[[1Ki 8:27]] But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?</ref> When God separated heavenly stuff from earthly stuff; the stuff the universe is made of, the earthly stuff was a void within God. <ref>[[Ge 1:2]] And the earth was '''without form, and void'''; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.</ref> Christians have the idea that God took absolutely nothing, and changed it's nature to be something, then organized the something into stuff.
 The picture painted by Genesis is that in the beginning there was only God. He was all that there was. There was no place to put a universe, so he opened a void in himself. He then made stuff from the immaterial void. The universe is still void. He formed stuff from the holes within himself. We are immersed in him.

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	:[[Ac 17:28]] '''For in him we live, and move, and have our being'''; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.</ref>		:[[Ac 17:28]] '''For in him we live, and move, and have our being'''; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.</ref>

−	We are immersed in God like fish in water and birds in air. We cannot and never will be able to see him. He is Holy, separate, and different. He must make himself known in some way. There are ~~tree~~ testimonies in heaven.	+	We are immersed in God like fish in water and birds in air. We cannot and never will be able to see him. He is Holy, separate, and different. He must make himself known in some way. There are three testimonies in heaven.

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	John has declared that no man has seen God <ref>[[Joh 1:18]] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].</ref> Not only has he not seen him, but he cannot see him. This teaching comes from the hidden. God is to men, like water is to the fish, and air is to the bird. The fish cannot see the water; if they could, they could see nothing else. The birds cannot see the air; if they could, they could see nothing else. We are immersed in God!		John has declared that no man has seen God <ref>[[Joh 1:18]] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].</ref> Not only has he not seen him, but he cannot see him. This teaching comes from the hidden. God is to men, like water is to the fish, and air is to the bird. The fish cannot see the water; if they could, they could see nothing else. The birds cannot see the air; if they could, they could see nothing else. We are immersed in God!

−	Some mock the idea that God is so big that he fills the universe. God doesn't fill the universe. God is bigger than the universe! <ref>[[1Ki 8:27]] But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?</ref> When God separated heavenly stuff from earthly stuff, the stuff the universe is made of, the earthly stuff was a void within God. <ref>[[Ge 1:2]] And the earth was '''without form, and void'''; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.</ref> Christians have the idea that God took absolutely nothing, and changed it's nature to be something, then organized the something into stuff. The picture painted by Genesis is that in the beginning there was only God. He was all that there was.	+	Some mock the idea that God is so big that he fills the universe. God doesn't fill the universe. God is bigger than the universe! <ref>[[1Ki 8:27]] But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?</ref> When God separated heavenly stuff from earthly stuff, the stuff the universe is made of, the earthly stuff was a void within God. <ref>[[Ge 1:2]] And the earth was '''without form, and void'''; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.</ref> Christians have the idea that God took absolutely nothing, and changed it's nature to be something, then organized the something into stuff.
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		+	The picture painted by Genesis is that in the beginning there was only God. He was all that there was. There was no place to put a universe, so he opened a void in himself. He then made stuff from the immaterial void. The universe is still void. He formed stuff from the holes within himself. We are immersed in him.
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		+	:[[Ac 17:28]] '''For in him we live, and move, and have our being'''; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.</ref>
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		+	We are immersed in God like fish in water and birds in air. We cannot and never will be able to see him. He is Holy, separate, and different. He must make himself known in some way. There are tree testimonies in heaven.
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	John is using the metaphor of each of the consonants in each word; heaven שמים and earth ארץ, as they are used in Genesis 1.		John is using the metaphor of each of the consonants in each word; heaven שמים and earth ארץ, as they are used in Genesis 1.
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		+	John is also demonstrating the metaphor of the number two. From Ge 1:1 it is discerned that there is only one creation, yet it has two parts; heaven and earth. This is not a moral duality which would have good and evil to be equal opposites. Nor is it a mitigated dualism where one of the gods is inferior, but always opposing. It is not a Gnostic dualism of a spirit trapped in a body. And it is not a Hindu dualism where the spiritual is a completely separate universe from the material.
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		+	The first expression of Biblical dualism is that God is Holy; he is separate, he is different.
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		+	John has declared that no man has seen God <ref>[[Joh 1:18]] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].</ref> Not only has he not seen him, but he cannot see him. This teaching comes from the hidden. God is to men, like water is to the fish, and air is to the bird. The fish cannot see the water; if they could, they could see nothing else. The birds cannot see the air; if they could, they could see nothing else. We are immersed in God!
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		+	Some mock the idea that God is so big that he fills the universe. God doesn't fill the universe. God is bigger than the universe! <ref>[[1Ki 8:27]] But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?</ref> When God separated heavenly stuff from earthly stuff, the stuff the universe is made of, the earthly stuff was a void within God. <ref>[[Ge 1:2]] And the earth was '''without form, and void'''; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.</ref> Christians have the idea that God took absolutely nothing, and changed it's nature to be something, then organized the something into stuff. The picture painted by Genesis is that in the beginning there was only God. He was all that there was.
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−	The word 'heaven' is ''shamayim'' שמים. The three consonants ש-מ-ם each represent one of the testimonies in heaven; the Spirit (Holy Ghost), the Father, and the Word (Son). The doctrine of the ~~trinity~~ was not a New ~~testament~~ invention. The New Testament authors obtained the doctrine from the OT scriptures.	+	The word 'heaven' is ''shamayim'' שמים. The three consonants ש-מ-ם each represent one of the testimonies in heaven; the Spirit (Holy Ghost), the Father, and the Word (Son). The doctrine of the Trinity was not a New Testament invention. The New Testament authors obtained the doctrine from the OT scriptures and from the metaphor of the words.

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	==Three in heaven==		==Three in heaven==

−	The word 'heaven' is ''shamayim'' שמים. The three consonants ~~שמים~~ each represent one of the testimonies in heaven; the Spirit (Holy Ghost), the Father, and the Word (Son). The doctrine of the trinity was not a New testament invention. The New Testament authors obtained the doctrine from the OT scriptures.	+	The word 'heaven' is ''shamayim'' שמים. The three consonants ש-מ-ם each represent one of the testimonies in heaven; the Spirit (Holy Ghost), the Father, and the Word (Son). The doctrine of the trinity was not a New testament invention. The New Testament authors obtained the doctrine from the OT scriptures.